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Ruby Beyond Rails

Posted by John Lam on Aug 30, 2008 03:03 AM

Community
.NET,
Ruby
Topics
Silverlight ,
.NET Framework ,
Rich Client / Desktop ,
Dynamic Languages ,
Runtimes
Tags
DLR ,
RubyFringe ,
IronPython ,
IronRuby
Summary
At RubyFringe John Lam talks about his path to dynamic languages, some of the problems of making IronRuby run fast, and how the DLR helps with implementing languages.

Bio
John Lam John works on the IronRuby project at Microsoft. IronRuby is an Open Source implementation of Ruby that runs real Ruby programs. John and his family recently relocated to Seattle from Toronto and they're loving the left coast lifestyle.

About the conference
RubyFringe is an avant-garde conference for developers that are excited about emerging Ruby projects and technologies. They're mounting a unique and eccentric gathering of the people and projects that are driving things forward in our community.

5 comments

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First things first by Matt Giacomini Posted Sep 3, 2008 12:11 AM
Re: First things first by Mark Richman Posted Sep 3, 2008 8:34 AM
Re: First things first by Francois Ward Posted Sep 3, 2008 10:51 AM
IronPerl vs VB.Net by Ali Motaz Posted Sep 4, 2008 11:45 AM
Re: IronPerl vs VB.Net by Francois Ward Posted Sep 5, 2008 9:05 AM
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    First things first

    Sep 3, 2008 12:11 AM by Matt Giacomini

    How about we get a good solid Rails on IronRuby before we start worrying about "Ruby beyond Rails"

    I know that jumping the gun is fun, but I would love a solid solution for Rails on .NET.

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    Re: First things first

    Sep 3, 2008 8:34 AM by Mark Richman

    You probably won't get your wish any time soon. ScottGu & Co. are putting their efforts into ASP.NET MVC, effectively their anti-Rails framework. Why would you want Rails on .NET anyway? Ruby is the real magic behind Rails. Would you want C# on Rails if such a thing could exist? Probably not...maybe IronRuby on Rails is what you're looking for?

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    Re: First things first

    Sep 3, 2008 10:51 AM by Francois Ward

    Well, technically, Microsoft themselves had showcased a demo of Rails running on IronRuby... it was just a demo as far as I know, but seems like the wish is closer than one would think :)



    Not that -I- would use it, but it seems like it will be there.

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    IronPerl vs VB.Net

    Sep 4, 2008 11:45 AM by Ali Motaz

    Generally speaking I would love to have Perl as a first class .Net lang, its the lang I know the most and the one I prefer

    Obviously no one is working on it!


    I have to use SSRS and SSIS at work, and I now have to learn VB.Net, its not a bad language, its just I'd rather learn an language I can also use on Linux and one that is dynamic!
    If IronRuby was available anywhere VB, I would have definitely pick it up over VB, now being a first class .Net lang wont be enough, only VB and not C# can be used directly inside SSRS and SSIS, so I think the IronRuby group have a long way to go!

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    Re: IronPerl vs VB.Net

    Sep 5, 2008 9:05 AM by Francois Ward

    VB only for SSRS (because of the way it works by expression, so its not even completly real VB, but more like dummyfied VB), but SSIS 2008 allows you to use languages other than VB, by the way.

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